【Hacker News搬运】加文·纽瑟姆否决SB 1047

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Title: Gavin Newsom vetoes SB 1047

加文·纽瑟姆否决SB 1047

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Url: https://www.gov.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/SB-1047-Veto-Message.pdf

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brianjking: <a href="https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/californias-gavin-newsom-vetoes-controversial-ai-safety-bill-d526f621?st=Jxq3wa&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink" rel="nofollow">https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/californias-gavin-newsom-vetoes-...</a>

brianjking: <a href=“https:”www.wsj.com“technology”ai&quot；californias-gavin-newsom-vetoes control-ai-safety-bill-d526f621？st=Jxq3wa&amp；reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink“rel=”nofollow“>https:”&#x2F；www.wsj.com；技术；ai；加利福尼亚州加文·纽瑟姆否决了</一

dazzaji: Among the good reasons for SB-1047 to have been vetoed are that it would have regulated the wrong thing. Here’s a great statement of this basic flaw: <a href="https://law.mit.edu/pub/regulatesystemsnotmodels" rel="nofollow">https://law.mit.edu/pub/regulatesystemsnotmodels</a>Not speaking for MIT here, but that bill needs a veto and a deep redraft.

dazzaji: SB-1047被否决的充分理由之一是，它会监管错误的事情。以下是对这一基本缺陷的一个很好的声明：<a href=“https:”law.mit.edu“pub”regulatorsystemsnotmodels“rel=”nofollow“>https:”&#x2F；law.mit.edu；pub；regulatorsystemsnotmodels</a>这里不代表麻省理工学院，但该法案需要否决权和深入的重新起草。

worstspotgain: Excellent move by Newsom. We have a very active legislature, but it's been extremely bandwagon-y in recent years. I support much of Wiener's agenda, particularly his housing policy, but this bill was way off the mark.It was basically a torpedo against open models. Market leaders like OpenAI and Anthropic weren't really worried about it, or about open models in general. Its supporters were the also-rans like Musk [1] trying to empty out the bottom of the pack, as well as those who are against any AI they cannot control, such as antagonists of the West and wary copyright holders.[1] <a href="https://techcrunch.com/2024/08/26/elon-musk-unexpectedly-offers-support-for-californias-ai-bill/" rel="nofollow">https://techcrunch.com/2024/08/26/elon-musk-unexpectedly-off...</a>

worstspotgain: Newsom的出色举动。我们有一个非常活跃的立法机构，但它；近年来，我们非常流行。我支持维纳的大部分观点；他的议程，特别是他的住房政策，但这项法案大错特错。这基本上是对开放模式的鱼雷。OpenAI和Anthropic等市场领导者；我真的不担心它，也不担心开放式模型。它的支持者也是像马斯克一样的失败者，试图清空底层，以及那些反对他们无法控制的任何人工智能的人，比如西方的反对者和谨慎的版权所有者 [1]<a href=“https://techcrunch.com x2024,08,26,埃隆·马斯克出人意料地为加州法案提供支持”rel=“nofollow”>https://&#x2F；techcrunch.com；2024年；08；26°；埃隆·马斯克出人意料地离开了</a>

tbrownaw: <a href="https://legiscan.com/CA/text/SB1047/id/3019694" rel="nofollow">https://legiscan.com/CA/text/SB1047/id/3019694</a>So this is the one that would make it illegal to provide open weights for models past a certain size, would make it illegal to sell enough compute power to train such a model without first verifying that your customer isn't going to train a model and then ignore this law, and mandates audit requirements to prove that your models won't help people cause disasters and can be turned off.

tbrownaw: <a href=“https:#x2F；#x2F legiscan.com#x2F CA#x2F text#x2F SB1047#x2F id#x2F 3019694”rel=“nofollow”>https:&#x2F；legiscan.com；CA；text&#x2F；SB1047；id&#x2F；3019694</a>因此，这将使为超过一定大小的模型提供开放权重成为非法行为，在没有首先验证您的客户是否满足要求的情况下，出售足够的计算能力来训练这样的模型也是非法的；不要训练一个模型，然后忽视这一规律，并强制审计要求来证明你的模型不会；它不会帮助人们制造灾难，也会被关闭。

dang: Related. Others?OpenAI, Anthropic, Google employees support California AI bill - <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41540771">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41540771</a> - Sept 2024 (26 comments)Y Combinator, AI startups oppose California AI safety bill - <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40780036">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40780036</a> - June 2024 (8 comments)California AI bill becomes a lightning rod–for safety advocates and devs alike - <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40767627">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40767627</a> - June 2024 (2 comments)California Senate Passes SB 1047 - <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40515465">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40515465</a> - May 2024 (42 comments)California residents: call your legislators about AI bill SB 1047 - <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40421986">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40421986</a> - May 2024 (11 comments)Misconceptions about SB 1047 - <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40291577">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40291577</a> - May 2024 (35 comments)California Senate bill to crush OpenAI competitors fast tracked for a vote - <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40200971">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40200971</a> - April 2024 (16 comments)SB-1047 will stifle open-source AI and decrease safety - <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40198766">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40198766</a> - April 2024 (190 comments)Call-to-Action on SB 1047 – Frontier Artificial Intelligence Models Act - <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40192204">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40192204</a> - April 2024 (103 comments)On the Proposed California SB 1047 - <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39347961">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39347961</a> - Feb 2024 (115 comments)

dang: 相关。其他人 OpenAI、Anthropic、谷歌员工支持加州人工智能法案-<a href=“https:&#x2F；news.ycombinator.com&#x2M；item？id=41540771”>https:&#x2F；news.ecombinator.com；项目？id=41540771</a>-2024年9月（26条评论）Y Combinator，人工智能初创公司反对加州人工智能安全法案-<a href=“https:&#x2F；news.ycombinator.com&#x2F；item？id=40780036”>https:&#x2F；news.ecombinator.com；项目？id=40780036</a>-2024年6月（8条评论）加州人工智能法案成为安全倡导者和开发人员的避雷针-<a href=“https:&#x2F；news.ycombinator.com&#x2F；item？id=40767627”>https:&#x2F；news.ecombinator.com；项目？id=40767627</a>-2024年6月（2条评论）加利福尼亚州参议院通过SB 1047-<a href=“https:&#x2F；news.ycombinator.com&#x2F；item？id=40515465”>https:&quot&#x2F；news.ecombinator.com；项目？id=40515465</a>-2024年5月（42条评论）加利福尼亚州居民：就人工智能法案SB 1047致电您的立法者-<a href=“https:&#x2F；news.ycombinator.com&#x2G；item？id=40421986”>https:&#x2F；news.ecombinator.com；项目？id=40421986</a>-2024年5月（11条评论）对SB 1047的误解-<a href=“https:&#x2F；news.ycombinator.com&#x2M；item？id=40291577”>https:&quot&#x2F；news.ecombinator.com；项目？id=40291577</a>-2024年5月（35条评论）加州参议院粉碎OpenAI竞争对手的法案快速通过投票-<a href=“https:&#x2F；news.ycombinator.com&#x2M；item？id=40200971”>https:&quot；x2F&#x2F；news.ecombinator.com；项目？id=40200971</a>-2024年4月（16条评论）SB-1047将扼杀开源人工智能并降低安全性-<a href=“https:&#x2F；news.ycombinator.com&#x2F；item？id=40198766”>https:&#x2F；news.ecombinator.com；项目？id=40198766</a>-2024年4月（190条评论）关于SB 1047的行动呼吁-前沿人工智能模型法案-<a href=“https:&#x2F；news.ycombinator.com&#x2F；item？id=40192204”>https:&quot&#x2F；news.ecombinator.com；项目？id=40192204</a>-2024年4月（103条评论）关于拟议的加州SB 1047-<a href=“https:&#x2F；news.ycombinator.com&#x2F；item？id=39347961”>https:&quot&#x2F；news.ecombinator.com；项目？id=39347961</a>-2024年2月（115条评论）