【Hacker News搬运】我们什么时候停止寻找新音乐？

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Title: When do we stop finding new music?

我们什么时候停止寻找新音乐？

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Url: https://www.statsignificant.com/p/when-do-we-stop-finding-new-music

文章标题为《When Do We Stop Finding New Music? A Statistical Analysis》，作者通过分析音乐流媒体服务（如Spotify和Deezer）的数据，探讨了随着年龄增长，人们对音乐的兴趣和品味如何变化。文章指出，人们在青少年时期对音乐的开放性和探索性最高，这个时期的音乐品味往往会影响一生。分析显示，音乐发现的峰值出现在24岁左右，之后随着年龄的增长，人们发现新音乐的能力逐渐下降，31岁左右音乐品味开始停滞。

作者还提到，音乐停滞的原因可能包括生物学趋势和实际限制，如工作繁忙、照顾孩子等。然而，音乐探索和发现新歌曲的能力是可以培养的，如果避免怀旧的情绪，人们可以重新找回对音乐探索的热情。文章最后提出了“探索-利用”的权衡，即在探索新信息和利用已知信息之间做出选择，并引用了37%规则作为决策的捷径，即在可用搜索时间的最初37%内探索选项，然后选择一个首选的解决方案或选择。

总的来说，这篇文章通过统计分析探讨了人们随着年龄增长如何逐渐减少发现新音乐的能力，并提出了音乐停滞是一个自然现象，但也可以通过努力和时间来克服。

Post by: commons-tragedy

Comments:

pxc: I expect it'll never happen to me. My dad was still actively seeking out new music when I was a kid, streaming college radio via the Internet before Pandora, Last.fm, or Spotify were things. He's in his 60s today and he still listens to new music (in a range of genres) all the time.<p>If novelty in music is actually important to you, this won't happen to you.

pxc: 我希望它；我永远不会发生在我身上。当我还是个孩子的时候，我爸爸还在积极寻找新音乐，在潘多拉、Last.fm或Spotify出现之前，他就通过互联网播放大学广播。他；他今天60多岁了，仍然一直在听新音乐（各种流派）<p> 如果音乐的新颖性对你来说真的很重要；不要发生在你身上。

amanaplanacanal: I must be some sort of freak.<p>I grew up in the 60’s and 70’s listening to classic rock, and a lot of it I can’t even stand any more due to the incredibly small playlists that most classic rock stations use.<p>In my 20’s I started listening to a lot of classical and then jazz. In the 90’s a lot of grunge which’s I still love. After that was trance in the 2000’s, then ambient, techno and IDM after that. I still listen to all of these genres today depending on my mood.

amanaplanacanal: 我一定是个怪胎<p> 我在60年代和70年代听经典摇滚长大，很多时候我甚至无法忍受，因为大多数经典摇滚电台使用的播放列表都非常小<p> 在我20多岁的时候，我开始听很多古典音乐，然后是爵士乐。在90年代有很多垃圾，我仍然喜欢。之后是2000年代的恍惚状态，然后是环境、技术和IDM。今天，我仍然会听所有这些流派的音乐，这取决于我的心情。

lapcat: I find it interesting that GenZ and Millennials show a much smaller preference for their own decade's music. <a href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F665829d5-7189-460d-a5b1-08ab5af600a2_1248x880.png" rel="nofollow">https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_pr...</a><p>The 1980s are still doing quite well among all but the oldest generation.<p>Is it possible that music may actually be getting worse? Corporatized, consolidated, computerized.<p>Look at Hollywood now too: everything is a sequel, prequel, remake, reboot, or adaptation. There’s hardly anything original anymore.

lapcat: 我发现有趣的是，Z世代和千禧一代对自己的十年表现出的偏好要小得多；的音乐<a href=“https://；&#x2F；substackdn.com&#x2F！image&#x2F，fetch&#x2F：f_auto:好，fl_progressive:s陡&#x2F。https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F665829d5-7189-460d-a5b1-08ab5af600a2_1248x880.png”rel=“nofollow”>https:&#x2F&#x2F；substackdn.com；图像；fetch；f_auto，q_auto：很好，fl_pr…</a><p>除了最老的一代之外，20世纪80年代在所有人中都表现得很好<p> 有没有可能音乐真的越来越糟糕？公司化、合并、计算机化<p> 现在也看看好莱坞：一切都是续集、前传、翻拍、重启或改编。几乎再也没有什么原创的了。

Thegn: One problem I've run into with the music services is with older styles. For example, I'm specifically into black musicians from the 1930s-1950s who played swing style music. I have yet to find a service that actually will play more than 2-3 songs in that style before deciding that what I really want to hear is rat pack or swing by white musicians. No matter how much I thumbs down it, I get Glenn Miller/Frank Sinatra/Benny Goodman instead of Count Basie/Duke Ellington/Slim Gaillard. The services have that music (I can find the songs and seed stations from it) but for whatever reason all of the ones I've tried (Spotify/Apple/Amazon/Pandora, and I have a feeling I've tried others and forgotten) just don't want me to listen to the style I'm looking for.

Thegn: 一个问题I-；我遇到的音乐服务是老式的。例如；我特别喜欢1930-1950年代演奏摇摆风格音乐的黑人音乐家。我还没有找到一个能播放2-3首以上这种风格歌曲的服务，然后才决定我真正想听的是白人音乐家的“老鼠包”或“摇摆”。无论我怎么贬低它，我都会得到Glenn Miller；Frank Sinatra；本尼·古德曼而不是贝西伯爵；杜克艾灵顿&#x2F；苗条的盖拉德。服务有音乐（我可以从中找到歌曲和种子站），但无论出于什么原因；我试过了（Spotify&#x2F；苹果&#x2F，亚马逊&#x2F：潘多拉，我有一种感觉，我试过其他人，但忘记了）只是不要；我不想让我听那种风格；I’我在找。

drones: Most people stop making an effort to expand their taste in art at a young age because it's not useful for them. People can afford to have narrow tastes and still enjoy music. If parents made being exposed to different types of music as important to one's growth as being exposed to different types of vegetables, I doubt we would have this cultural phenomenon.<p>Theoretically, I should have given up trying to find new music years ago, but that hasn't happened. This is because music is the only artform that resonates with me on a spiritual level. Finding new music is important to me because it is a part of my identity. Contrast this with the fact I haven't been to a cinema since 2022. I don't broaden my taste in cinema because it has little impact on how much I enjoy films.

drones: 大多数人在年轻时就不再努力扩大他们对艺术的品味；It’对他们没用。人们可以承受狭隘的品味，但仍然喜欢音乐。如果父母让接触不同类型的音乐对一个人来说同样重要；在不同种类的蔬菜中生长，我怀疑我们是否会出现这种文化现象<p> 从理论上讲，我早在几年前就应该放弃寻找新音乐的尝试，但事实并非如此；没有发生。这是因为音乐是唯一能在精神层面上与我产生共鸣的艺术形式。寻找新音乐对我来说很重要，因为它是我身份的一部分。与此形成对比的是；自2022年以来，我没有去过电影院。我不；Don’我不想扩大我对电影的兴趣，因为它对我喜欢电影的程度影响不大。