【Hacker News搬运】探索与LaTeX类似的新型排版系统Typst

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Title: Exploring Typst, a new typesetting system similar to LaTeX

探索与LaTeX类似的新型排版系统Typst

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Url: https://blog.jreyesr.com/posts/typst/

很抱歉，作为一个AI，我无法直接访问或分析外部网站的内容，包括您提供的链接。不过，我可以帮助您了解如何使用JinaReader这样的工具来抓取和分析内容，并指导您如何进行内容翻译。

以下是一个基本的步骤指南，展示如何使用JinaReader或其他类似工具来抓取内容、分析内容并翻译非中文内容：

1. **安装JinaReader**：
   如果您还没有安装JinaReader，您需要先安装它。通常，您可以通过以下命令进行安装（以Python环境为例）：
   ```bash
   pip install jina

抓取内容：
使用JinaReader的API或命令行工具来抓取网页内容。以下是一个使用Python的示例代码：

from jina import Client

# 创建一个Jina客户端
client = Client()

# 使用客户端发送请求到Jina的worker
response = client.post(
    method="search",
    input={"text": "https://blog.jreyesr.com/posts/typst/"},
    flow_name="my_flow"
)

# 输出抓取的内容
print(response)

分析内容：
抓取到内容后，您可以使用JinaReader内置的功能或自定义的处理器来分析内容。例如，您可以分析文本摘要、关键词提取等。
翻译非中文内容：
如果抓取到的内容不是中文，您需要将其翻译成中文。这通常需要使用翻译API，如Google翻译API、Microsoft Translator Text API等。以下是一个使用Google翻译API的Python示例：
```
from googletrans import Translator

translator = Translator()
translation = translator.translate('抓取的内容', src='auto', dest='zh-cn')
print(translation.text)
```
总结内容：
最后，您可以根据分析结果和翻译后的内容进行总结。这可能包括提取关键信息、撰写摘要或生成报告。

请注意，以上代码仅为示例，实际使用时可能需要根据您的具体需求和环境进行调整。另外，使用第三方API进行翻译时，您可能需要注册并获取API密钥。

        
## Post by: judell
        
### Comments: 
        
**__mharrison__**: I&#x27;ve moved all of my LaTeX-based content creation to Typst.<p>It&#x27;s:<p>- Fast—Compiling my books would take around 1 minute (I often had to compile twice due to indexing). With Typst, it takes less than 5 seconds.<p>- Easy to write—I actually don&#x27;t write it, I wrote a bunch of Pandoc plugins to tweak the output from Pandoc (I write all my books in Jupyter these days, so lots of markdown).<p>- Easy to read—I&#x27;ve used LaTeX for years (and wrote a bunch of tooling around it) and still couldn&#x27;t tell you when to use a { or a [. Typst is very readable.<p>- Easy to script—Okay, I did write some Typst the other day. I migrated my LaTeX-based invoicing system to Typst. I created a list of objects with pricing and count and was able to throw it into a table easily. It has less code than my LaTeX version, which was using a library, and is easier to read. (I did need to write a function to properly format $ because that doesn&#x27;t exist. A few rounds with AI made that easy.)<p>- Has great error messages—If you&#x27;ve used LaTeX, you know what I mean.<p>My needs are different from others, but I&#x27;m writing PDFs that need to be printed into a real book that looks professional. This includes front matter, footnotes, callouts, page numbers, page headers and footers, and indexes. I don&#x27;t do a lot of math-heavy stuff, so I can&#x27;t comment on that. And the widow&#x2F;orphan support is a little weak.<p>Otherwise, I&#x27;m happy to never use LaTeX again!
> **__mharrison__**: 我；我把所有基于LaTeX的内容创作都转移到了Typst<p> 它；s： <p>-快速-编译我的书大约需要1分钟（由于索引，我经常不得不编译两次）。使用Typst，只需不到5秒<p> -很容易写——我其实不写；我写了一堆Pandoc插件来调整Pandoc的输出（这些天我所有的书都是用Jupyter写的，所以有很多降价）<p> -易于阅读；我使用LaTeX多年（并围绕它编写了一堆工具），但仍然无法；我不会告诉你什么时候使用{或[.Typst非常可读。<p>-易于编写脚本-好吧，我前几天确实写了一些Typst。我将基于LaTeX的发票系统迁移到了Typst上。我创建了一个包含定价和计数的对象列表，并能够轻松地将其放入表中。它的代码比我的LaTeX版本少，后者使用库，更容易阅读。（我确实需要编写一个函数来正确格式化$，因为它不存在。几轮人工智能使这变得容易。）<p>——有很多错误消息——如果你使用过LaTeX，你知道我的意思。<p>我的需求与其他人不同，但我正在写PDF，需要打印成一本看起来专业的真正的书。这包括封面、脚注、标注、页码、页眉和页脚以及索引。我不做很多数学繁重的事情，所以我不能对此发表评论。寡妇孤儿的支持有点弱。<p]否则，我很高兴再也不用LaTeX了！
            
**YmiYugy**: In the very limited time I used typst it has been pretty amazing, but imho there is one missing feature that a LaTeX successor, but even more so, templating engine should have. 
Come up or adapt a format, that can defer certain styling decisions to the consumer of the document. Stuff like, font, font size, line spacing, citation style, double or single column, numeration style, etc.<p>On a different note, we got to find a better way to exchange data than pdf reports. In my totally made up estimation about 10% of development time for enterprise software is spend on variations of these pdf templating tools and another 20% on extracting data from such generated pdfs.
> **YmiYugy**: 在我使用typst的非常有限的时间里，它非常棒，但我发现LaTeX的继任者缺少一个功能，更重要的是，模板引擎应该具备这个功能。提出或调整一种格式，这可以将某些样式决策推迟给文档的消费者。字体、字体大小、行距、引用样式、双列或单列、计数样式等。<p>另一方面，我们必须找到一种比pdf报告更好的数据交换方式。根据我的全面估计，企业软件的开发时间中约有10%用于这些pdf模板工具的变体，另外20%用于从生成的pdf中提取数据。
            
**vslavkin**: I&#x27;ve been looking into it.
It&#x27;s `blazingly fast` (aside from the rust joke, it really is way faster than latex), the syntax is more &quot;modern&quot;, consistent, etc.<p>The main problem is the popularity. It just does not have enough packages, at least for my use case.<p>I mainly do a lot of equations (simple math), and a loooot of tikz (forest, circuitikz, pgfplots, etc.) [<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gitlab.com&#x2F;vslavkin&#x2F;escuela&#x2F;-&#x2F;tree&#x2F;main&#x2F;5to?ref_type=heads" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gitlab.com&#x2F;vslavkin&#x2F;escuela&#x2F;-&#x2F;tree&#x2F;main&#x2F;5to?ref_type...</a>]
I&#x27;m not a fan of tikz, but it&#x27;s the only way to mantain the graphics homogeneous, clean, easily editable, compiled with the document and with links&#x2F;references.
Cetz (the typst alternative) is years behind. 
I&#x27;ve been thinking of contributing, but tikz is really complex, and I don&#x27;t have enough time ATM.<p>Besides the typst packages, it also lacks the editor packages. I am an emacs user <i>insert joke here</i>, and I use AucTeX, which is a really great, and gigant package to edit latex (+cdlatex). AFAIK there&#x27;s nothing like it for typst, which makes me way slower.<p>Another thing is that they changed the math syntax. While the latex one wasn&#x27;t perfect it was insanely popular, because of its use on markdown and a lot of pages (and this was thanks to mathjax iirc).<p>The good thing is that something like latex or typst will always be needed, so there&#x27;ll always people that want to have something like it; latex&#x2F;tex isn&#x27;t really great, and it has a really low entry bar.<p>Maybe I&#x27;ll switch when I have more time to study it and make packages. (It could be as soon as next year or a late as... never)
> **vslavkin**: 我；我一直在调查。它；“快得惊人”（除了铁锈笑话，它真的比乳胶快得多），语法更“；“现代”；，主要问题是受欢迎程度。它只是没有足够的包，至少对我的用例来说是这样<p> 我主要做很多方程式（简单的数学），以及一系列tikz（森林、电路、pgfplots等）[<a href=“https://”gitlab.com“vslavkin”escuela“-”tree“main”5to“ref_type”heads“rel=”nofollow“>https://”git lab.com“-vslavkin”escuela“-”树“main”5to“ref_type…</a>]我；我不是tikz的粉丝，但它；这是保持图形均匀、干净、易于编辑、与文档和链接一起编译的唯一方法；参考文献。Cetz（打字员的替代品）落后了好几年。我；我一直在考虑做出贡献，但tikz真的很复杂，我不这么认为；我没有足够的ATM时间<p> 除了打字包，它还缺少编辑器包。我是一个emacs用户<I>在这里插入笑话</I>，我使用AucTeX，这是一个非常棒的巨型软件包来编辑latex（+cdlatex）。AFAIK在那里；打字员一点也不像，这让我慢了很多<p> 另一件事是他们改变了数学语法。而乳胶不是；不完美的是，它非常受欢迎，因为它在markdown和很多页面上都有使用（这要归功于mathjax-irc）<p> 好消息是，总是需要乳胶或打字员之类的东西，所以有；总是有人想拥有这样的东西；乳胶；tex不是；它真的不太好，而且入门门槛很低<p> 也许我；等我有更多时间研究它并制作包，我就换了。（可能最快明年，也可能最晚……永远不会）
            
**alphazard**: This is neat.  I&#x27;ve used Latex before, and it definitely suffers from poor ergonomics.  Both the language and tooling contribute to this.<p>The selling point seems to be that this is more similar to Markdown.  That makes sense, Markdown is objectively more common and has more users than Latex.  I&#x27;ve used both, but Markdown way more often.<p>Here&#x27;s something I don&#x27;t understand: it would be trivial to make Typst even more similar to Markdown, and yet it exists at some strange middle point in the language design space, arbitrarily far from Markdown.
> **alphazard**: 这很整洁。我；我以前用过乳胶，它肯定存在人体工程学不佳的问题。语言和工具都对此做出了贡献<p> 卖点似乎是这更类似于Markdown。这是有道理的，Markdown在客观上比Latex更常见，用户也更多。我；我两者都用过，但Markdown更常用<p> 这里；这是我不喜欢的；我不明白：让Typst更像Markdown是微不足道的，但它存在于语言设计空间的某个奇怪的中间点，与Markdown相距甚远。
            
**elashri**: Previous discussions about Typst.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=41014941">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=41014941</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=38354422">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=38354422</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=38047224">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=38047224</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=35250210">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=35250210</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=34423590">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=34423590</a>
> **elashri**: 之前关于Typst的讨论<p> <a href=“https://news.ycombinator.com/item？id=41014941”>https://news.ymbinator.com&#x2F；news.ecombinator.com；项目？id=41014941</a><p><a href=“https:&#x2F；news.ycombinator.com&#x2F；item？id=38354422”>https:&quot&#x2F；news.ecombinator.com；项目？id=38354422</a><p><a href=“https:&#x2F；news.ycombinator.com&#x2F；item？id=38047224”>https:&quot&#x2F；news.ecombinator.com；项目？id=38047224</a><p><a href=“https:&#x2F；news.ycombinator.com&#x2F；item？id=35250210”>https:&quot&#x2F；news.ecombinator.com；项目？id=35250210</a><p><a href=“https:&#x2F；news.ycombinator.com&#x2F；item？id=34423590”>https:&quot&#x2F；news.ecombinator.com；项目？id=34423590</a>