【Hacker News搬运】ChatGPT搜索
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Title: ChatGPT Search
ChatGPT搜索
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Url: https://openai.com/index/introducing-chatgpt-search/
由于我无法直接访问外部网站，我将根据您提供的链接描述以及我对OpenAI和ChatGPT的了解来进行分析和总结。 OpenAI的介绍页面介绍了ChatGPT搜索功能，以下是对该内容的分析： ### OpenAI简介 OpenAI是一家总部位于美国的人工智能研究公司，致力于推动人工智能的发展，以造福人类。OpenAI的目标是通过研究和开发先进的人工智能技术，促进人类福祉和社会进步。 ### ChatGPT搜索功能介绍 ChatGPT是OpenAI开发的一款基于人工智能的聊天机器人，它能够进行自然语言处理，理解用户的问题并给出合适的回答。以下是ChatGPT搜索功能的一些关键点： 1. **智能搜索**：ChatGPT搜索功能能够理解用户的查询意图，并从大量信息中快速准确地找到相关内容。 2. **多语言支持**：ChatGPT能够处理和翻译多种语言，这意味着即使内容不是英文，也能提供相应的中文翻译。 3. **上下文理解**：ChatGPT能够理解查询的上下文，提供连贯的回答，而不是简单的关键词匹配。 4. **实时更新**：ChatGPT可以访问最新的信息，确保提供的数据是最准确的。 5. **用户体验**：通过自然语言交互，用户可以更加直观地获取信息，而不需要学习复杂的搜索命令。 ### 总结 OpenAI推出的ChatGPT搜索功能代表了人工智能在搜索领域的一个重要进步。它不仅能够提供快速准确的搜索结果，还能够通过自然语言进行交互，极大地改善了用户的搜索体验。这项技术有望在信息检索、教育、客户服务等多个领域发挥重要作用。 请注意，以上内容是基于OpenAI和ChatGPT的公开信息进行的总结和推断，并非直接从提供的链接内容中提取。Post by: marban
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freediver: Been thinking about this a lot [1]. Will this fundamentally change how people find and access information? How do you create an experience so compelling that it replaces the current paradigm?<p>The future promised in Star Trek and even Apple's Knowledge Navigator [2] from 1987 still feels distant. In those visions, users simply asked questions and received reliable answers - nobody had to fact-check the answers ever.<p>Combining two broken systems - compromised search engines and unreliable LLMs - seems unlikely to yield that vision. Legacy, ad-based search, has devolved into a wasteland of misaligned incentives, conflict of interest and prolifirated the web full of content farms optimized for ads and algos instead of humans.<p>Path forward requires solving the core challenge: actually surfacing the content people want to see, not what intermiediaries want them to see - which means a different business model in seach, where there are no intermediaries. I do not see a way around this. Advancing models without advancing search is like having a michelin star chef work with spoiled ingredients.<p>I am cautiously optimistic we will eventually get there, but boy, we will need a fundamentally different setup in terms of incentives involved in information consumption, both in tech and society.<p>[1] <a href="https://blog.kagi.com/age-pagerank-over" rel="nofollow">https://blog.kagi.com/age-pagerank-over</a><p>[2] <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umJsITGzXd0" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umJsITGzXd0</a>
freediver: 我对此思考了很多[1]。这会从根本上改变人们查找和访问信息的方式吗？你如何创造一种如此引人注目的体验，以取代当前的范式<p> 《星际迷航》甚至苹果所承诺的未来；1987年的《知识领航员》[2]仍然让人觉得遥远。在这些愿景中，用户只需提出问题并得到可靠的答案——没有人需要对答案进行事实核查<p> 将两个破碎的系统结合起来——受损的搜索引擎和不可靠的LLM——似乎不太可能实现这一愿景。传统的基于广告的搜索已经变成了一片激励错位、利益冲突的荒地，网络上充斥着针对广告和算法而非人类优化的内容农场<p> 前进的道路需要解决核心挑战：实际呈现人们想要看到的内容，而不是中间媒介想要他们看到的内容——这意味着在没有中间媒介的情况下，seach采用了不同的商业模式。我看不出有什么办法可以解决这个问题。在不推进搜索的情况下推进模型就像让米其林星级厨师处理变质的食材<p> 我谨慎乐观地认为，我们最终会实现这一目标，但男孩，在技术和社会方面，我们需要一个完全不同的信息消费激励机制<p> [1]<a href=“https:/；blog.kagi.comG；age pagerank over”rel=“nofollow”>https:/；blog.kagi.com；age pagerank over</a><p>[2]<a href=“https:”www.youtube.com“watch？v=umJsITGzXd0”rel=“nofollow”>https:”/；www.youtube.com；看？v=umJsITGzXd0</a>
joshruby16d: I'm working on a search engine at <a href="https://sirch.ai" rel="nofollow">https://sirch.ai</a> if anyone wants to join something fun - or if anyone is interested in trying a demo. My email is josh @ sirch.org<p>The search engine uses AI to connect people - and it actually works at this point, kinda.
joshruby16d: 我；m在<a href=“https:/；sirch.ai”rel=“nofollow”>https:/；sirch.ai</a>如果有人想参加一些有趣的活动，或者有人有兴趣尝试演示。我的电子邮件是josh@sirch.org<p>搜索引擎使用人工智能来连接人们——在这一点上，它实际上是有效的。
whizzter: This is probably Google's Altavista moment, by making their results crappier by the year in search of Ad dollars everyone has felt that there is a potential for search to be better and once that becomes available they'll be in a continious game of catch-up.<p>Yes, Google has their own AI divisions, tons of money and SEO is to blame for part of their crappiness. But they've also explicitly focused on ad-dollars over algorithmic purity if one is to believe the reports of their internal politics and if those are true they have probably lost a ton of people who they'd need right now to turn the ship around quickly.
whizzter: 这可能是谷歌；Altavista时刻，通过逐年搜索广告收入，每个人都觉得搜索有可能变得更好，一旦有了这种可能性，他们就会；我会一直在追赶<p> 是的，谷歌有自己的人工智能部门，大量的资金和搜索引擎优化是造成其糟糕的部分原因。但他们；如果一个人相信他们内部政治的报道，如果这些报道是真的，他们可能已经失去了很多人，那么我也明确地关注广告收入，而不是算法纯度；我现在需要让船快速掉头。
cjf101: If the current iteration of search engines are producing garbage results (due to an influx of garbage + SEO gaming their ranking systems) and LLMs are producing inaccurate results without any clear method proposed to correct them, why would combining the two systems not also produce garbage?<p>The problem I see with search is that the input is deeply hostile to what the consumers of search want. If the LLM's are particularly tuned to try and filter out that hostility, maybe I can see this going somewhere, but I suspect that just starts another arms race that the garbage producers are likely to win.
cjf101: 如果当前的搜索引擎迭代产生了垃圾结果（由于垃圾的涌入+SEO游戏他们的排名系统），而LLM在没有提出任何明确的纠正方法的情况下产生了不准确的结果，为什么将这两个系统结合起来也不会产生垃圾呢<p> 我在搜索中看到的问题是，输入对搜索消费者的需求非常敌视。如果LLM；我们特别注重过滤这种敌意，也许我能看到这种情况会发生，但我怀疑这只是开始了另一场军备竞赛，垃圾生产商可能会赢。
GolfPopper: Every time I see one of these topics, I go ask chat GPT a question to which I know the answer on a topic where I would like to be able to get useful answers to similar questions that I do not know the answer to.<p>This time it was, "Did Paul Edwin Zimmer write a fourth Dark Border novel?" (Real answer: Yes, <i>Ingulf the Mad</i>. You can find the answer on his Wikipedia page.[1])<p>ChatGPT's[2] answer: "Yes, Paul Edwin Zimmer wrote a fourth novel in the Dark Border series titled "The Dark Border." This book was published after the original trilogy, which included "The Dark Border," "The Gilded Age," and "The Silver Sphere." If you're interested in the themes or plot, let me know!" (Note: these are not the titles of the 2nd and 3rd novels in the series. Also, it gave me the same name for the putative 1st and 4th books.)<p>Pure hallucination.<p>1. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Edwin_Zimmer" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Edwin_Zimmer</a>
2. <a href="https://chatgpt.com/" rel="nofollow">https://chatgpt.com/</a>GolfPopper: 每次我看到其中一个话题，我都会去问GPT聊天室一个我知道答案的问题，我希望能够得到我不知道答案的类似问题的有用答案。<p>这次是，"；保罗·埃德温·齐默写了第四部《黑暗边界》小说吗&“；（真正的答案：是的，疯狂的Ingulf。你可以在他的维基百科页面上找到答案。[1]）<p>ChatGPT'；s[2]回答："；是的，Paul Edwin Zimmer在《黑暗边界》系列中写了第四部小说，题为"；黑暗的边界&“；这本书是在最初的三部曲之后出版的，其中包括"；《黑暗的边界》&“；镀金时代，"；以及"；银色球体&“；如果您；对主题或情节感兴趣，请告诉我&“；（注：这些不是该系列第二部和第三部小说的标题。此外，它给了我与第一部和第四部小说相同的名字。）<p>纯粹的幻觉<p> 1<a href=“https:”en.wikipedia.org:”wiki:”Paul_Edwin_Zimmer“rel=”nofollow“>https:”/；en.wikipedia.org；维基；Paul_Edwin_Zimmer</a>2.<a href=“https:/；chatgpt.com/”rel=“nofollow”>https:"/；chatgpt.com</一