【Hacker News搬运】等到8号

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Title: Wait Until 8th

等到8号

Text:

hn link

Url: https://www.waituntil8th.org

由于我作为一个AI，无法直接访问互联网来获取或分析网页内容，包括访问`https://www.waituntil8th.org`。不过，我可以提供一些指导，告诉你如果使用JinaReader这样的工具来抓取和分析网页内容，应该如何操作。

以下是一个使用JinaReader进行网页抓取和分析的基本步骤：

1. **安装JinaReader**：
   首先，你需要安装JinaReader。这通常涉及到从GitHub或其他代码托管平台克隆或下载代码，然后使用Python的`pip`包管理器进行安装。

   ```bash
   pip install jina

2. 编写抓取脚本：
   使用Jina的API编写一个Python脚本来抓取网页内容。以下是一个简单的示例：

   from jina import Document
   from jina.executor import BaseExecutor
   
   class WebScraperExecutor(BaseExecutor):
       async def __call__(self, docs, **kwargs):
           for doc in docs:
               response = requests.get(doc.content)
               if response.status_code == 200:
                   doc.content = response.text
   
   # 创建一个搜索引擎实例
   search = JinaSearch()
   
   # 添加一个执行器
   search.add_executor(WebScraperExecutor, input_key='content', output_key='content')
   
   # 创建一个文档并设置URL
   doc = Document()
   doc.content = "https://www.waituntil8th.org"
   
   # 执行搜索
   search.execute([doc])
   
   # 打印结果
   for d in search.results:
       print(d.content)
   

3. 内容分析：
   抓取到网页内容后，你可以使用文本分析工具或库来分析内容。例如，使用nltk或spaCy来进行自然语言处理。

   import nltk
   from nltk.tokenize import word_tokenize
   
   # 假设抓取的内容存储在doc.content中
   tokens = word_tokenize(doc.content)
   print(tokens)
   

4. 翻译非中文内容：
   如果你需要将非中文内容翻译成中文，你可以使用翻译API，如Google Translate API或百度翻译API。

   from googletrans import Translator
   
   translator = Translator()
   translated = translator.translate(doc.content, src='auto', dest='zh-cn')
   doc.content = translated.text
   

请注意，以上代码仅为示例，并且在实际使用中可能需要根据实际情况进行调整。你需要确保有网络访问权限，并且可能需要处理HTTP请求的异常情况。此外，对于翻译API的使用，你可能需要注册账户并获取API密钥。

        
## Post by: zeroonetwothree
        
### Comments: 
        
**legitster**: Parent here. This is a LOT easier today than it was 5-10 years ago.<p>It <i>feels</i> like there&#x27;s been a generation divide where younger kids are not as insistent on smartphones as the older kids were. Maybe it was covid. But also there&#x27;s a lot of negative sentiment even amongst kids about smartphones - that they are addictive, encourage anti-social behaviors, and enable bullying. &quot;Brain-rot&quot;.<p>Our local school district banned phones during school hours just this last year and there has been an overwhelming positive sentiment from faculty and kids.<p>We don&#x27;t otherwise do things like track screen time. Our kids have videogames and computers and tablets. But we&#x27;re providing a dumbphone in late grade school and so far there are no protests to get anything else.
> **legitster**: 家长在这里。今天比5-10年前容易多了<p> <i>感觉</i>就像那里；这是一个代沟，年幼的孩子不像年长的孩子那样坚持使用智能手机。也许是新冠肺炎。但也有；即使在孩子们中，也有很多关于智能手机的负面情绪——他们会上瘾，鼓励反社会行为，并助长欺凌行为&“；脑腐烂&quot<p> 就在去年，我们当地的学区禁止在上课时间使用手机，教师和孩子们对此有着压倒性的积极情绪<p> 我们不；否则，我就不会做像跟踪屏幕时间这样的事情。我们的孩子有电子游戏、电脑和平板电脑。但我们；在小学后期重新提供了一个哑铃，到目前为止还没有抗议活动来获得其他东西。
            
**zetazzed**: I&#x27;m still surprised the &quot;dumb phone for kids&quot; and &quot;dumb watch with basic comms&quot; markets are so underdeveloped (from my perspective). I would love my kids to have (a) gps tracking, (b) ability to send texts&#x2F;calls to like 5 predefined numbers, (c) tell the time, and nothing else. But watches all seem to have games or weird gamified fitness trackers (Google&#x27;s new fitbit for kids). Or they are super kid-ish, like bright blue with animal icons, and would be revolting to my older kids. That would make it easy to wait until 9th grade for a more feature-rich phone, though maybe still not unfettered access.<p>Does anyone have a basic watch&#x2F;dumbphone solution for older kids that they like?
> **zetazzed**: 我；我仍然对“；儿童智能手机&quot；以及&quot；具有基本通信功能的哑表&quot；（在我看来）市场太不发达了。我希望我的孩子有（a）gps跟踪，（b）发送短信的能力；调用like 5个预定义的数字，（c）告诉时间，没有其他信息。但手表似乎都有游戏或奇怪的游戏化健身追踪器（谷歌为儿童推出的新fitbit）。或者它们超级孩子气，像带有动物图标的亮蓝色，会让我的大孩子反感。这将使人们很容易等到9年级才能买到功能更丰富的手机，尽管可能仍然无法不受限制地使用<p> 有人有基本的手表吗；他们喜欢为年龄较大的孩子提供的哑铃解决方案？
            
**cmeacham98**: I&#x27;m going to post the same comment I did last year when this showed up on HN (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=36207142">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=36207142</a>), as checking the website it still seems to be true:<p>Literally none of the evidence on the website&#x27;s own &quot;Why&quot; page supports their suggestion: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.waituntil8th.org&#x2F;why-wait" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.waituntil8th.org&#x2F;why-wait</a><p>All of the studies (bonus points for linking to news articles instead of directly to the studies) have something to do with &quot;time spent using screens&#x2F;a phone&#x2F;social media&quot;, but nothing to do with age of first use.<p>How can anyone trust this website has any basis in reality when they wrote a whole page explaining why and none of it was applicable?<p>Of course parents should regulate how much time their kids spend on electronics (similar to how parents of previous generations would prevent kids from watching TV 5 hours a day) - but this website presents no evidence that giving a kid a smartphone in 8th grade rather than 5th grade would make a meaningful difference.
> **cmeacham98**: 我；我将发布与去年HN上出现这条消息时相同的评论（<a href=“https:&#x2F；news.ycombinator.com&#x2F; item？id=36207142”>https:&quot；news.ymbinator.com＆#x2F'item？id=36207142</a>），因为在检查网站时，这似乎仍然是真的：<p>网站上几乎没有任何证据；自己的&quot；为什么&quot；该页面支持他们的建议：<a href=“https:&#x2F；www.waituntil8th.org&#x2F;为什么要等待”rel=“nofollow”>https:&#x2F；www.waituntil8th.org；为什么等待</a><p>所有的研究（链接到新闻文章而不是直接链接到研究的加分）都与&quot；使用屏幕所花费的时间；电话；社交媒体”；，但与首次使用的年龄无关<p> 当他们写了一整页解释为什么，但没有一页是适用的，怎么能相信这个网站在现实中有任何依据呢<p> 当然，父母应该规范孩子在电子产品上花费的时间（就像前几代父母会阻止孩子每天看5个小时的电视一样），但这个网站没有提供任何证据表明，在8年级而不是5年级给孩子一部智能手机会产生有意义的影响。
            
**thebruce87m**: &gt; Students in eighth grade are usually 13–14 years old.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Eighth_grade" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Eighth_grade</a><p>In case anyone else outside the US couldn’t find the actual age when scanning the site.
> **thebruce87m**: &gt；八年级的学生通常是13-14岁<p> <a href=“https://en.m.wikipedia.org=wiki=Eighth_grade”rel=“nofollow”>https://&#x2F；en.m.wikipedia.org；维基；Eighth_grade</a><p>以防美国以外的任何人在扫描网站时找不到实际年龄。
            
**empathy_m**: After high school ended (2:30pm) most days I used to have some kind of club activity (2:30pm-3:30pm) and then hang out in the cafeteria or by the front of the school, waiting for a parent to pick me up on the way home from work (5pm).<p>I had a dumb phone so I could stay in touch, and I could also walk home if I wanted (40min &#x2F; no sidewalks &#x2F; 35mph roads), but most of the time I just sat down and did homework and read books. Spent a ton of time on the computer at home.<p>Got through &quot;Brothers Karamazov&quot; and &quot;Anna Karenina&quot; that way -- just 1.5hr a day of focused, uninterrupted time. I absolutely never would have read them and would have spent the whole time scrolling TikTok if I could have.  Hrmm.
> **empathy_m**: 高中毕业后（下午2:30），大多数时候我都会参加某种俱乐部活动（下午2:30-3:30），然后在自助餐厅或学校门口闲逛，等待父母在下班回家的路上接我（下午5点）<p> 我有一部哑巴手机，这样我就可以保持联系，如果我愿意，我也可以步行回家（40分钟·没有人行道·35英里/小时的道路），但大多数时候我只是坐下来做作业和读书。在家里花了很多时间在电脑上<p> 通过&quot；卡拉马佐夫兄弟&quot；以及&quot；安娜·卡列尼娜&quot；这样一来，每天只需1.5小时专注、不受干扰的时间。我绝对不会读它们，如果可以的话，我会一直滚动TikTok。小时。